Sunday Talks / Random Musings

A minister’s work is never done, and neither is yours

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

A minister’s work is never done, and neither is yours
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Clay Nelson © 11 June 2023

I keep getting enquiries about and objections to replacing principles with values (Here are links to the earlier talks on this topic:- 1, 2, 3 & 4). I thought I’d dealt with this issue but, apparently, not satisfactorily for some. So, let me try again.

These changes did not come out of the blue. There are a couple of stories behind them. They tell stories about UU principles and values.

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Beyond Growth

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Alix Geard

Beyond Growth
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Alix Geard © 4th June2023

Today’s theme is inspired by “Beyond growth: Pathways towards sustainable prosperity in the EU

I wanted to share something about what the future might look like: especially something new about what’s going on in the space around climate change and degrowth. I’ve been finding that quite depressing, though.

I admit that I even asked ChatGPT for some examples of what I might say. The homilies it came up with were familiar, reassuring, anodyne and almost completely pointless. They did sound good, though.

Instead, I want to throw some ideas at you about what people are like, and how we work together. The ideas are all a bit flawed – they’re working notes and patterns to look out for – but I’ve found them useful.

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Pentecost Sunday

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Speaker:- Peter Lineham
Worship Leader:- John DiLeo

Pentecost Sunday
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Peter Lineham © 28th May 2023


Meditation / Conversation Starters

  • Can “noisy” religions be valid for some people?
  • Do you think that there are religious arguments in favour of democracy?
  • How do we reconcile cultural and language difficulties, with world harmony and peace?
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New Member Sunday

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Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

No recordings this week.

Following our ritual for welcoming new members into the congregation, Clay gave us a whirlwind tour of some of the early New Zealand Unitarians who have gone before us in this congregation.


Opening words:- New Member Covenant” By Laura Randall

Chalice Lighting:- is adapted from Chalice Lighting” By Oberlin UU Fellowship, Oberlin, OH, USA

Closing Words:- Each of us ministers to a weary world” By Darcy Roake

The thrill of participatory social justice

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Speaker:- Marlon Drake of Te Ohu Whakawhanaunga,
Worship Leader:- Rachel Mackintosh

The thrill of participatory social justice
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Marlon Drake © 14 May 2023

Marlon attended Western Springs College and then moved to Wellington where he was a student activist at Victoria University, serving as President of the students association, campaigning against sexual violence and in favour of mental health support for students. He also worked part time as an organiser in the Living Wage Movement during his time as a law student at Victoria. Marlon is now the full-time community organiser for Te Ohu Whakawhanaunga, a broad-based coalition in Auckland working for social justice.

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The thrill of participatory theology

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

The thrill of participatory theology
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Clay Nelson © 7 May 2023

This morning is the fourth in a series of musings about what it means to be a living tradition. (Here are links to talks 1, 2, and 3.) How have we changed? Who decides what it means to be a UU today? And who owns the congregation?

When the eight members from diverse backgrounds were appointed to review Article II Bylaws, the first thing they did was consult UU stakeholders. These included, amongst others:-

  • Congregational leaders, lay and professional
  • Professional Associations
  • Philosophical and Theological Groups (e.g. UU Humanists, UU Christians, etc.)
  • 8th Principle and 1st Principle advocates
  • Past GA attendees
  • Former UUs who have left the faith
  • Unchurched UUs who still identify as UUs but don’t belong to UU
  • Members of the 2010 Commission on Appraisal
  • UUA staff
  • UU seminaries
  • UU Issues groups (e.g., UU Earth Justice Ministry, UUs for Justice in the Middle East

This is participatory theology. Its purpose is to determine and articulate our shared values and theology.

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Will Unitarian Universalism remain a living tradition?

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

Will Unitarian Universalism remain a living tradition?
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Clay Nelson © 30 April 2023

[Third musing in the series] 1, 2

I was intrigued by excerpts of Diane Miller’s reflections on the proposed changes to the Unitarian Universalist Association (UUA) Bylaws to be voted on in June at the General Assembly. Dianne was a young pregnant feminist invited to be on the committee charged with revising our purposes. Her son was born during the committee’s work. He was a toddler when what we know as the Seven Principles passed General Assembly in 1985. It was a radical change from such statements in the past. Her son is now a parent with two children, and Diane is retired. She is 74. She is also delighted that the hard work of the committee she served is being revised nearly 40 years later. What struck me most is that, including her generation, which is also mine, three generations of those who became UUs after 1985 have only known the Seven Principles as the definition of who we are.

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Have the Seven Principles passed their use-by date?

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

Have the Seven Principles passed their use-by date?
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Clay Nelson © 23rd April 2023

Last week we explored the many challenges of being a living tradition, the biggest being finding a consensus when we don’t have a creed, holy book of revelation or ecclesiastical authority.

This morning our focus is on the Seven Principles. How they came to be? Their role in our faith. Have they passed their use by date?

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It isn’t easy being a “Living Tradition”

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rev. Clay Nelson

It isn’t easy being a “Living Tradition
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Clay Nelson © 16th April 2023

This morning I would like to focus on what it means to be a living tradition. As Unitarian Universalists we sing about it. We proudly proclaim it as what we are. But what does it mean? Most simply put our beliefs are etched in pencil and not carved in stone. But there are consequences. Like being green, being a living tradition isn’t easy.

It is a big topic, so this is the first of several random musings exploring who we are, how we got here and where we are being led. My hope is that we might better understand our Kaupapa, our mission and purpose.

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A wrinkle in time: the Easter miracle?

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Speaker & Worship Leader:- Rachel Mackintosh

A wrinkle in time: the Easter miracle?

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Rachel Mackintosh © 9th April 2023

At the risk of being grandiose, I begin this sermon a bit like the person who wrote the gospel of Mark. It’s more than 40 years since I read Madeleine L’Engle’s children’s book, A Wrinkle in Time. I have thought about it and talked about it since, but I haven’t relived it. (I didn’t watch the film because I didn’t want to risk my memory being ruined.)

Here is my telling of the bits that have stuck with me, with some interpositions along the way.

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